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I agree that Paul was the apostle to the gentiles and that through his gospel we are saved. I have studied under a Oklahoma rancher layman who teaching are very close to yours. His name is Les Feldick and he has many things online. Keep the faith brother. Hi Doctrine, praise God for the Holy Ghost that guides you in spirit and in truth in your studies! Christina, Thank you.
God takes care of his own. Disobedient believers will lose rewards and sometimes, God will remove them 1 Corinthians 5. Sin has consequences Galatians 6. What would you say this Scripture means…Galatians , Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleaness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, stride, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkeness, revellings, and such like: of which i tell you before, as i have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit it the kingdom of God.
I believe God knows our hearts, yes we sin and fall short, but we are not purposely living unto sin.
Nobodies for Jesus: 14 Days Toward a Great Commission Lifestyle
But for those who are intentionally taking advantage of His grace, i do not believe they will inherit Gods kingdom. Its when our hearts are truly changed, which then our actions and lifestyle shows it!
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There is no way that we can just believe in their minds and then live exactly the same. How are we gonna win people to Christ if we arent Peculiar people? Showing that a living a life for Christ is better than this world? Christina, See what Paul wrote to the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 6. The Scripture is the best commentary on itself. If we are baptized into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit and saved by grace is it possible to continue to sin? Does this mean there are sinners in the Body of Christ? Thank you for laying out so clearly the difference between the Apostles and Paul.
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BBwyo, One can certainly sin as a believers. Paul wrote to correct believers in sin on several occasions in his letters. See my article, The Bride of Christ, for the identity of the bride of Christ. The jealousy aspect was valid so long as there was a possibility for Israel to repent. Jews who now believe the gospel become members of the body of Christ. I put my faith in the historical Jesus; a faithful Jew who was and is the Messiah according to Jewish prophecies and expectations.
We miss a lot if we do not keep in mind at all times that Jesus was Jewish. Roger, Well, Paul was Jewish and a faithful servant of the risen Lord. Apart from Paul we have no revelation from the Lord of salvation by faith alone, the equality of Jew and Gentile in Christ, identification with Christ, heavenly position and citizenship, joint-heirship with Christ, the administration of grace, not Law, the hope of resurrection Rapture , and an explanation for the current state of national Israel and their future hope. In short, everything known as Christianity comes from the revelations the ascended Lord gave to Paul.
Interesting discussion. So what have we learned? Who did Jesus say he came for; the lost sheep of the House of Israel. For a long time we thought the house of Israel was the same as the nation of Israel that King David and Solomon reigned over. In truth we find that it is the northern 10 tribes that split from Judah after the reign of Solomon. They had already been driven out of most of their land and were now among the Gentiles. His Word Torah will not change until heaven and earth pass away. This is a hat hanger.
Our Heaveny Father said this through His prophets and Jesus said it. To my understanding, nothing has passed away in regard to heaven and earth. In Acts, when you see the qualifications that had to be met to be the replacement Apostle for Judas, you had to be with our Savior since he started his ministry. Remember, the foundation of New Jerusalem is the 12 sons of Jacob and the judges are the 12 Apostles, not We think he is the great deception that we were promised.
Also, the House of Israel has been scattered all over the earth like sands of the sea. They have forgotten who they are. I could go on and on. I know who put it together. Jesus came to save all Israel, all 12 tribes, and they were all known James 1. He had no dealings with Gentiles except the Roman centurion and Canaanite woman see my article, Two Remarkable Healings. They were apostles to Israel; Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles Romans His commission came not from the earthly Lord but from the risen, glorified Lord. This was a totally different program. The risen Lord commissioned Paul to be the founder of the Church, the founder of Christianity.
He revealed to him secrets He had not disclosed in His earthly ministry or to the God knows all 12 tribes and will restore them into the land Ezekiel 37; Revelation 7. Thank you for your response. In fact, Paul rarely if ever writes about what Jesus taught or about his earthly ministry at all. This idea is not new and is not mine, but it is, I believe, worth considering. The Kingdom of God that Jesus taught, and that was validated by his resurrection from the dead, is not free.
Looking back at the letters he wrote, which make up over two-thirds of the New Testament, he rarely refers to anything Jesus taught, only to what this mythical Christ-figure he saw in a vision had to say. What happened to the historical Jesus who Paul never met in the writings of Paul? The implication is crucial: are we who call ourselves Christians following the teachings of Jesus or the teachings of Paul?
They are mutually exclusive.
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I prefer to follow the teachings of Jesus over one who claims to have had a mystical experience with Christ and received exclusive revelations from that Christ for many years after. I bring no malice to this discussion. Roger, The problem with your analysis is that Jesus ministered to Jews only. He did not minister to Gentiles. The only way Gentiles could be blessed according to the Abrahamic covenant Genesis Israel could not be blessed apart from the Messiah. Therefore, when Israel rejected Christ God had no way to bless Gentiles.
But in grace He called Paul to be the apostle of the Gentiles. To conform to the Abrahamic covenant Paul a Jew described himself as one being untimely born 1 Corinthians Zechariah 8. Through Paul God revealed secrets by which Gentiles could be blessed apart from national Israel. The result was the Church, the body of Christ, i. Yes…1 Corinthians is an encouragement and a reminder to not to go back to those ways. And Yes Jesus did only speak to the Jews, but now we all all adopted into that. In Ephesians states, According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestined us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,.
This Chapter talks to the faithful in Christ Jesus as well. For the body is not one member, but many. Not many can understand the bible and i thank God for His Spirit. There are many Scholars, that read the bible in their own understanding. I know for a fact, that we need to live a life for Christ, Holy and acceptable unto Him and not just believe with an exception of those on their death bed, like the one that was crucified next to Christ. I pray that the Holy Spirit continues to lead you in all that you do and that you are planted in a Church of truth that you can also be fed at, and plow in as well.
God Bless. But when we try to explain all the Christian myths to other christians, they blatantly deny that there was any such difference in what 12 apostle preached that from what Paul. I was having a conversation with a good friend who is a christian like I am, but on matters of rightly dividing the word of God 2 Tim him and I are not on the same page. What was suppose to be a casual discussion, had snow balled and had become a burning issue in both our faith.
They were both speaking to Israel and Jews in Jewish homeland and territory asking all of Israel and Jews to repent and turn their hearts for Kingdom of God was at hand.
And when I said that, my friend refused my theory outrightly and told me I was at error and he went on to say that both John the Baptist and Jesus did preach to other gentiles and that Jesus Christ came for both Jews and gentiles at the same time. This morning my friend provided couple of passages one from John and other from Matthew to prove his point that Jesus and Philip did preach to gentiles.
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Here are the references Matthew In the land of Zebulum and of Naphtalia beside the sea, beyond the Jordan in Galilee where so many Gentiles live. And those who lived in the land where death cast its shadow, a light has shined. John Now there were some Greeks among those who were going up to worship at the feast, these came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida of Galilee… I really appreciate if you can explain what the above passages mean?